tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post5715974847344249713..comments2024-03-26T05:01:57.793-07:00Comments on DREAMS ARE WHAT LE CINEMA IS FOR...: INSIDE DAISY CLOVER 1965Ken Andersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-59155334239234151162023-03-20T12:36:19.724-07:002023-03-20T12:36:19.724-07:00Hello, Kip - Ha! Just your description of the car...Hello, Kip - Ha! Just your description of the car chase makes me want to at least give Sex and the Single Girl a fast-forward re-look! I don't know what movie would be a good send-off to a Natalie Wood movie binge, but DAISY CLOVER shouldn't be it. <br />Your description of Ruby Keeler is spot-on and hilarious! My mind immediately went to her lead-footed tap dance on the top of a NYC taxi in "42nd Street"...that looking down at her feet thing! As funny as your comments are, I think your approach to the kind of '30s movie star Natalie Wood's DAISY would been a better fit for is very close to the mark. <br />And you make a good point about Daisy's transformation from scrappy teen to such a passive character later on. She chafes at her success with small acts of childish rebellion (getting married or dropping out of the premiere), but is so often a victim of the powers that be. <br />I guess the writer's intent was to convey how Daisy maybe "lost" herself during her movie star years (is it years? It feels like months) but it's not conveyed very well. <br />Thanks for the laugh, and for your continued contributions here. Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-43277166313078560872023-03-19T08:11:38.720-07:002023-03-19T08:11:38.720-07:00Hi, Ken. If you stopped watching SEX AND THE SING...Hi, Ken. If you stopped watching SEX AND THE SINGLE GIRL you must have missed the single worst car chase in the history of cinema. It's about 20 minutes on the LA freeways and winds up at LAX which is a mystery because the entire movie before it takes place in NY. Why are they in LA?<br /><br />Anyway, after this movie and INSIDE DAISY CLOVER, my Natalie Wood kick has come to a screeching halt. It's rare to watch a big budget Hollywood movie in which nearly every choice the director makes is the wrong one. I actually think Natalie Wood could have pulled off this role if they'd thought about Ruby Keeler. Keeler was Wood's exact height (5'2") had large beautiful eyes, a pert adorable face, sang every note off-key and performed entire tap numbers without looking away from her feet. Daisy Clover tapping on the "Angel Beach" boardwalk, including a cute, smiling photo of herself taken in a photo booth along with her recording for Swann's contest would have gotten this movie off to a much better start. Daisy's tough, pugnacious side may be entirely fake in Wood's performance, but it's also the only thing that makes her character interesting. Once her awful sister Gloria has Mom committed and becomes Daisy's guardian, moving into a lavish movie star mansion, Daisy should have continued to beat the crap out of her. What could Gloria and her wishy washy husband have done about it? The biggest thing that kills this movie is that Daisy becomes a passive victim about half way through and doesn't come out of it until the end. Kiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281290996597528859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-83343843052825905192020-11-15T03:24:04.716-08:002020-11-15T03:24:04.716-08:00Ha! Well, Plummer is in prime hotness here, so try...Ha! Well, Plummer is in prime hotness here, so try to stick with it.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-6097773152008267842020-11-15T03:22:38.140-08:002020-11-15T03:22:38.140-08:00It was worth the couple of years wait to read your...It was worth the couple of years wait to read your recast ideas!<br />And you might have something there about the image of Captain von Trapp canoodling with a "Sixteen Going on 17." Thank you very much for reading this post and for taking the time to comment in so amusing a fashion.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-3597314125508568212020-11-15T01:08:49.210-08:002020-11-15T01:08:49.210-08:00HOLY HECK! Christopher "Hotness" Plummer...HOLY HECK! Christopher "Hotness" Plummer is in this movie? Now I HAVE to watch it all of the way through someday!Peppermint Snowdrifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08892704947166771667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-20130336187344416052019-04-04T17:53:28.410-07:002019-04-04T17:53:28.410-07:00It’s a couple years too late now, but obviously th...It’s a couple years too late now, but obviously the best recast of this film would have been in the present day - Lindsay Lohan as Daisy. Ryan Gosling as Wade, Russell Crowe as Raymond Swan, Charlize Theron as Melora and Barbra Streisand as the dealer. :)<br /><br />I think part of the reason that they didn’t cast this with an age appropriate actress is because Christopher Plummer kissing an actual teenager this close to The Sound Of Music would have freaked everyone the hell out. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-70033145543277383282018-04-11T11:58:19.651-07:002018-04-11T11:58:19.651-07:00I agree. Somehow she was too refined and delicate ...I agree. Somehow she was too refined and delicate to ever be completely believable as a scrappy ragamuffin, but few could match her when she had scenes showing her vulnerability. A marvelous light comedienne, I too like her in "The Great Race" (she and Dorothy Provine are almost the only redeeming elements of that film for me). You're right...she did too few comedies.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-28202973242731613122018-04-11T11:03:02.827-07:002018-04-11T11:03:02.827-07:00At times, Natalie's dramatics seemed too force...At times, Natalie's dramatics seemed too forced but she could really nail it when she showed vulnerability (the scene where she is confiding to Ruth Gordon and discovers she had died). <br />I loved her most in comedies such as The Great Race where she showed a real gift for delivering a funny line along with her expressive eyes and mannerisms. SO many funny moments in that film and some with her not even saying a word! I wish she would have done more films like that. doforanimalshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09799664078733389106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-43073573566175999692018-04-11T09:49:55.563-07:002018-04-11T09:49:55.563-07:00I think nostalgic eyes is the best way to look at ...I think nostalgic eyes is the best way to look at it. When you're a kid EVERYBODY seems older, so a full-grown woman play-acting a teenager doesn't ring particularly false. Likewise the 60s/30s anachronisms. I think the basic story holds fascination, so watching it with a mind that recalls a past fondness (or obsession!) for it, allows it to remain a viable - camp- entertainment. Thank you very much for reading and commenting!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-8507696189308978042018-04-11T09:13:49.135-07:002018-04-11T09:13:49.135-07:00As a kid, I was so fascinated and slightly obsesse...As a kid, I was so fascinated and slightly obsessed with this film! I loved the Daisy character and Natalie's portrayal, plus the music and the darkness of the whole thing. As an adult, I saw the million flaws (LOL) but I watched it with nostalgic eyes and appreciated it for the campy wonderfulness it was to me as a child.doforanimalshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09799664078733389106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-3976129255564902172017-04-23T07:52:11.965-07:002017-04-23T07:52:11.965-07:00Ha! I know what you mean. Historical accuracy is n...Ha! I know what you mean. Historical accuracy is no guarantee that a film is going to be enjoyable, and (as per Elizabeth Taylor as the liquid eyeliner-ed, flat-voiced Queen of the Nile), there IS something about seeing history through a '60s prism that can have a charm all its own.<br />I'm glad you have a weak spot for that number, I do too!<br />Thank you for giving me a bit of a lift and a smile with your comments!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-55635653244601228422017-04-22T21:39:32.623-07:002017-04-22T21:39:32.623-07:00"Intergalactic megalomaniac Daisy Clover fois..."Intergalactic megalomaniac Daisy Clover foists herself on an unsuspecting planet" . . . Brilliant caption! (I laughed out loud.)<br /><br />I have a weak spot for that production number, and a guilty weak spot for the whole movie. After a while, the sense of dislocation provoked by seeing the thirties through a sixties prism gets to be quite a rush.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605556458419671054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-42228116402943646642016-09-27T07:42:28.701-07:002016-09-27T07:42:28.701-07:00Hi Marthanna
I love that you actually felt compell...Hi Marthanna<br />I love that you actually felt compelled to Google Natalie Wood's wig in this movie! It really does seem to make an impression (along with believable-looking dummies falling from high distances, I think movie technology has yet to come up with a good-looking short wig. It always seems to hover around the actor's head like a satellite).<br />As for the whole "gray hair" thing, I wonder if that's something from the novel. With 21 minutes cut from the original film, perhaps there was an earlier mention of those streaks. As it is (and as you note) the info seems to come out of nowhere in spite of their catching our eye.<br />I'm pleased that you enjoyed the post and I thank you for dropping by and taking the time to comment. Your Google search title gave me a nice chuckle!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-23839110224468736722016-09-27T07:36:21.645-07:002016-09-27T07:36:21.645-07:00Great take on 'Inside Daisy Clover'. Agre...Great take on 'Inside Daisy Clover'. Agree with Ken. You are one attentive, engaged move-watcher! Love it! :)Marthannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17595636055225264725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-84714337050636519632016-09-27T07:29:00.916-07:002016-09-27T07:29:00.916-07:00Love your post Rick! I too need 'Daisy Clover...Love your post Rick! I too need 'Daisy Clover' therapy. I record/watch it every time it's on TCM, and always leave unsatisfied. Why do I put myself through it? "I'm going to learn to cook, and not your fishburgers and chocolate milk" ugh!Marthannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17595636055225264725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-22527298369185773132016-09-27T07:14:18.916-07:002016-09-27T07:14:18.916-07:00I found your simply wonder review while Googling &...I found your simply wonder review while Googling "Natalie Wood Inside Daisy Clover Wig". Hahaha! <br /><br />I hope that thing on her head IS a wig. The way it sits on her head like a hat, ugh. You notice all those weird streaks in her hair from the beginning with no explanation. They finally mention her 'gray hair' near the end of the film. Why even put such a distraction in there? Did Natalie Wood ask for it to add 'depth' to her character? Hmm... bet if I keep looking I'll find the answer. Thanks again for an enjoyable read! :)Marthannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17595636055225264725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-34237483444935348952015-07-31T15:00:51.651-07:002015-07-31T15:00:51.651-07:00Hi Roberta
I know what you mean about the number o...Hi Roberta<br />I know what you mean about the number of responses. This movie seems to baffle people a bit in trying to figure out just why it doesn't really work. <br />It seems to take itself awfully seriously, all the while jumping around anecdotally, not entirely sure of what tone its going for.<br /><br />And love the story about you and your sister! Andre and Dory Previn should be proud to know they collaborated on one of the most persistent earwig ditties to come out of movies in a long time!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-36004773072824485452015-07-30T22:11:39.309-07:002015-07-30T22:11:39.309-07:00Amazing the number of comments this film generated...Amazing the number of comments this film generated! Especially considering that it didn't work as a drama and wasn't campy enough to be funny.<br /><br />I saw this !movie as a teen on the late movie. Like so many others, I fully expected to like it: Natalie Wood, Robert Redford, Christopher Plummer, etc.<br /><br />Even though I was a very naive teen and a nascent film buff, I knew there was something really off about this movie. Couldn't have labeled what was wrong, I was too young, but your insightful review and the comments of your readers have nailed it. <br /><br />I won't reiterate what has already been so eloquently articulated here. Just one comment about The Circus Is A Wacky World -- to this day ,when I want to annoy my older sister all I have to do is start to sing that song. She will literally cover her ears and run from the room! Not the kind of staying power the filmmakers had in mind.LOL!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553379265410073042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-72500074066445507652015-06-15T16:10:58.606-07:002015-06-15T16:10:58.606-07:00Hi Rick
Some interesting points you make about thi...Hi Rick<br />Some interesting points you make about this film that seems to elicit reactions as wide-ranging and all over the map as the film itself.<br />I think I can buy Natalie Wood as a teenager (I managed not to guffaw at Travolta and Newton-John as the geriatric teens in "Grease") more than I accepted her as this rough-and-tumble toughie. Not only is she too anglularly beautiful and slight of build, but the tough talk seems alien to both her voice and manner so speaking. She's like someone playing dress-up.<br />Growing up, I never much paid attention to Wood, but in retrospect it's amazing the number of high- profile hits she appeared in.<br />I always found her likeable if not always believable (my favorite is "Splendor in the Grass).<br />As you note, this film seems to suffer from perhaps having too much edited out (and what is there being handled somewhat choppily) so motivations are lost and characters remain surface.<br /><br />I never read the book upon which it is based, but I did research it and was intrigued by its period setting. A friend of mine who read it said that it actually helps this film seems less like a cut and paste job since it's told from Daisy's point of view and we are thereby privy to all that is absent (internally) about the character in the film. I hadn't heard about the Selznick/Jones rumors, which seem apt (and fun to contemplate).<br /><br />Still, it's an oddly entertaining film to watch, even without being fully satisfying. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this film while they were so fresh in your mind. it's always great when a movie sparks thought...even if it's sometimes just the head-scratching kindKen Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-18806579719805472412015-06-13T18:55:21.579-07:002015-06-13T18:55:21.579-07:00I re-read your take on "Inside Daisy Clover&q...I re-read your take on "Inside Daisy Clover" after watching this on Netflix. My initial reaction is much like everyone here--rarely has a movie provoked such mixed feelings...with each viewer!<br /><br />27-year-old Natalie Wood as a teenager. Seems absurd today. Pretty common for the era--and I'm not just talking Joan Crawford playing 40ish for a quarter of a century! I just watched '63's "Come Blow Your Horn" with Sinatra at 48 having 21-year-old Tony Bill as his kid brother. And Lee J. Cobb as Frankie's dad...who was only 4 years older! Just like Angela Lansbury playing Laurence Harvey's mother in '62's "The Manchurian Candidate." Or Jessie Royce Landis as Cary Grant's mother in '59's "North by Northwest." Still, new Hollywood had 30-year-old and looking it Dustin Hoffman as a college kid in "The Graduate" with 36-year-old Anne Bancroft as the aging cougar, as well as 40-ish looking 50-ish John Cassavetes as a struggling "young"actor with a 23-year-old Mia Farrow as his wife in "Rosemary's Baby."<br /><br />I love some of the casting suggestions for Daisy. But really, a depressing, period quasi-musical would have never been made had it not been for Wood's marquee value. The team of Wood/Mulligan/Pakula just had a hit with "Love With the Proper Stranger." I was actually surprised how many box office smashes Nat appeared in thru the first half of the '60s. Even badly reviewed flicks like "Sex and the Single Girl" and "Gypsy" made lots of money. As Raymond Swan rails on in "Clover," that's Hollywood's real dreams are made of!<br /><br />On the flip side, rarely has a really big star appeared to go off the rails so fast. After appearing in a string of box office smashes, it only took two well-intentioned prestige movies ("Daisy" and "This Property is Condemned") and one small clunker comedy ("Penelope") to knock Nat down the Hollywood food chain. Wood admirably or foolhardily picked a bad time to take a hiatus to concentrate on her personal life. Turning down "Bonnie and Clyde" and "Barefoot in the Park" for respectively personal and monetary reasons didn't help, but were probably better cast. Interesting fact: Natalie Wood, who was increasingly looked at as "old Hollywood," was actually a tad younger than both Robert Redford and Jane Fonda...and only 2.5 years older than Faye Dunaway.<br /><br />I read Redford was uncomfortable playing a gay movie star in "Clover," as originally scripted. Rumor has it alterations were made to appease him, only to tweak scenes without Bob, making Wade Lewis bi leaning toward gay, which pissed Redford off.<br /><br />Aside from an over-aged title star, I wonder if the worst flaw with "Inside Daisy Clover" is the editing? Worse than "Mommie Dearest" in it's stomping from one set piece to another! As cheesily entertaining as those musical numbers are, they go on forever! A series of snippets depicting the hectic pace of golden era movie-making might have made Daisy Clover's rise to stardom more believable without dwelling on Natalie Wood's musical abilities. Also, why does the dramatic musical score of this movie sound like a horror movie?<br /><br />Gossip Moment 2: Ever read the Gavin Lambert novel "Inside Daisy Clover"? I am intrigued to check it out. Understand it is set in the '50s and some folks think the Swans were based on David Selznick and Jennifer Jones, while Wade Lewis a take on Montgomery Clift. That dynamic sounds about right when the 3 collided in "Indiscretion of an American Housewife." But I've also read that the key incident of Daisy Clover's impromptu wedding to Wade Lewis was loosely based on Judy Garland and Tyrone Power's affair...which sounds somewhat apt for the film version of Daisy Clover. <br /><br />Thanks for letting me post my Daisy Clover therapy...there must be a support group somewhere!<br /><br />Rickhttp://ricksrealreel.blogspot.com/https://www.blogger.com/profile/14243899548141583461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-66692808294852920772015-01-15T11:56:48.137-08:002015-01-15T11:56:48.137-08:00Hi Neely
I of course feel exactly as you do about...Hi Neely <br />I of course feel exactly as you do about the serious "How much time has elapsed?" flaw the film that takes Daisy from dreamy wannabe to overburdened teen with graying hair without ever giving the character a moment where she is a star and happy about it. <br />I think the it's the voice-over at the end that clues you in that onlyTWO YEARS have elapsed! Thus her breakdown is so swift you not only sympathize with Swan when Daisy wants "time off", but it leaves the impression that Daisy was mentally unstable long before Swan entered the picture(In those days I know it's possible for a contract star to have made four or more pictures in a single year, but doesn't Daisy only make ONE movie?)<br />So many of your observations made me laugh (especially the one referencing Ruth Gordon's age). But you sum it all up best with your early sentence "What movie did they think they were making?"<br />And I love that you gave props to Roddy McDowall's posture. As his career progressed, sometimes that proved to be the one good thing you could take away from his screen appearances.<br />You sound like such an attentive, engaged movie-watcher! I'm glad you happened upon this blog! Thanks, Neely! Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-17672564871808902852015-01-14T13:40:17.194-08:002015-01-14T13:40:17.194-08:00I just watched this finally on TCM based on this r...I just watched this finally on TCM based on this review (mentioning Neely O'Hara gets my attention, natch). My mind was blown. Mostly I kept asking myself "What movie did they think they were making?" <br /><br />It seems to be a What Price Hollywood expose, but there's never an evolution in the title character. In, say, "Valley of the Dolls," we see Neely go from up and comer to difficult to drugged lunatic to vindictive has-been. Here, Daisy goes from Bowery Boy to lashing out over being so managed, but a) we never see being famous before her dreams are shattered and b) she never actually advocates for herself. Swann tells her to do something, she does it, then gets mad about it later. She's one of the most passive title characters ever, which does nothing to make the audience care about her.<br /><br />I was super confused over how much time passes. She gets all rebellious after the premiere of ... one number from her movie? Then the movie comes out later? So she's tired of the machine before the machine's even kicked in yet? She keeps acting like she's been toiling for Swann for years; her behavior is of an established star taking control of her life, not of someone who hasn't even made a movie yet!<br /><br />Robert Osborne made a good point on the TCM outro that the censorship of the time hamstrung the sexual content. I'm glad for that, honestly, because this movie is already entirely populated with pedophiles:<br /><br />- Melora Swann immediately creeped me out from scene 1; she was like a pimp or procurer or something. <br />- I don't get why Swann starts macking on Daisy except that he's a pedo, or trying to headfuck her, or both. <br />- I thought Redford's character was a good depiction of someone who's bipolar, so when they threw bisexual at me, my jaw hit the floor. But why do they keep implying they had sex over and over? You know what's better to show than a 15-year-old waking up naked after a night with an older man? The opposite of that. <br /><br />Apparently Ruth Gordon had a baby at 50.<br /><br />The only person to escape unscathed is poor Roddy McDowall, whose entire part is to stand around having impeccable posture. Seriously - the posture on that man is a thing of beauty.Neely OHarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09424740042954202389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-11063024725250848232015-01-14T00:36:03.078-08:002015-01-14T00:36:03.078-08:00Yes, Patty Duke's ghost has always seemed to h...Yes, Patty Duke's ghost has always seemed to hover around this film for me. Part because she was such a shoo-in, part because of what came to light about her childhood in later years.<br />With Natalie Wood being such a big star, a longtime friend of the book's author, and campaigning so aggressively for the role, even if Patty Duke HAD been considered (as you say, doubtful given how awkwardly close to home it hit), it's unlikely anyone would have taken a chance on her.<br />Author Gavin Lambert wrote many books about Hollywood that used thinly disguised true-life biographical info about various stars. It makes one wonder what star(s) really inspired Daisy Clover. I read an article once that listed several child stars (including Duke) whose lives fit the Daisy Clover bill. <br />As you say, the idea that people would know of such mistreatment and decide that it would make good drama is a severe side of Hollywood on par with "The Day of the Locust"<br />And your point about Garland in "Dolls" is an interesting one. You're right in that she'd never played an unlikable character before...I'm not so sure she could have pulled it off myself.<br />Thanks for bringing up so many interesting points!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-80698195739735215932015-01-13T23:34:37.334-08:002015-01-13T23:34:37.334-08:00Interesting that you choose Patty Duke, as half of...Interesting that you choose Patty Duke, as half of this was her actual horrific story going on just a few years earlier. The other half was Judy Garland. Doing "Valley of the Dolls" must have been such a catharsis for Patty Duke. Of course she would have been better, even her singing, because she was a good singer and it was her story. But that is probably why they didn't dare cast her. And Hollywood wanted a "real movie star" instead of a TV one, so they got what they got. I find "Valley of the Dolls" so much more satisfying because it wasn't trying to be the "big Hollywood movie" that this was. And of course, Judy could never have made that movie work because Judy could never make anyone hate her the way you had to hate Helen Lawson, who I always saw as a thinly veiled Ethel Merman.<br /><br />What is so creepy about Inside Daisy Clover are the close parallels to Patty Duke's actual life, as if someone (perhaps many someones) knew exactly what was going on, and instead of revealing it to the authorities, thought it would make a groovy big Hollywood movie. That would be a horrific indictment of Hollywood in and of itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-81664372917250671942014-07-28T15:08:36.267-07:002014-07-28T15:08:36.267-07:00I've always been into movie advertising, parti...I've always been into movie advertising, particularly the taglines thing, so I enjoyed your reminding me of the one from "I'll Cry Tomorrow" (I actually have that on a drink coaster, of all things), and the one from "I Want to Live" which I've never heard.<br />Also interesting are your ruminations on possible casting choices. Always points to what an under-appreciated art casting is. Thanks, Joel!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.com