tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post8968324776303093160..comments2024-03-26T05:01:57.793-07:00Comments on DREAMS ARE WHAT LE CINEMA IS FOR...: MAGIC 1978Ken Andersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-30814782677369789602023-08-03T05:51:14.414-07:002023-08-03T05:51:14.414-07:00Thanks for providing that link. I'd never hear...Thanks for providing that link. I'd never heard of that NYT villains series, and Gary Oldman's MAGIC-inspired take is terrifically comic/horrific! <br />Not sure it's known by many other fans of the movie, so I thank you for such a valuable contribution to this post. Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-38821036723038456842023-07-31T10:07:16.293-07:002023-07-31T10:07:16.293-07:00Back in 2011 the New York Times did a series of sh...Back in 2011 the New York Times did a series of short YouTube videos of famous actors playing villainous archetypes yanked from the movies. Gary Oldman's is obviously Fats, and it's a doozy.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otj75wiezFUNequamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10829037166873574240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-90283993270448441422023-01-14T00:01:04.780-08:002023-01-14T00:01:04.780-08:00I've never read Magic, the obviousness of the ...I've never read Magic, the obviousness of the movie - despite a few effective bits, notably from the cast - didn't compel me to do so. You astonish me with that information! What was ol' Billy thinking? I'm not sure Ann-Margret would find being portrayed as a life support system for a pair of breasts flattering. (I know she did the picture but I guess she decided to ignore that part.) Peculiar. She was/is a fine figure of a woman but what about her vivacity, the sense of something more beneath the surface, her humour, the way she moved, her hair, her face? Surely, he would have considered those of more note? Ha, I'm getting annoyed with a dead man. That said, you have now made me want to read the novel for myself. <br /> I remember seeing Carnal Knowledge and Tommy as a teenager and finding Ann-Margret's presence compelling, she was a a gorgeous woman with a sense of melancholy about her. Certainly one scene from Knowledge in which she wore a dress with an incredible plunging neckline caught the attention of my raging hormones but, again, I was a teenager and even then I didn't see it as the be-all and end-all of her appeal! (As for Tommy, Ken Russell's films are interesting but erotic they are usually not - even with the scads of nudity e.g. The Music Lovers . The baked bean scene is one of those scenes that you'd have to have a particular fetish to find arousing. I'm more concerned for Ann-Margret getting that horrible stuff all over her. Do it to Ollie Reed, Ken Russell!) William Goldman was in his forties! I wonder if he proposed to his wife in this manner: "Honey, we've been together for six months. I love your tits, I want to marry them - and you too." <br /> An aside: Ann-Margret singing Bye Bye Birdie is, I think, one of the greatest, most beautiful scenes in the cinema; she's perfect. She totally took my heart, my imagination, my - I don't know what the correct word is, "desire" doesn't quite cut it because although from what I recall the second version was, in my opinion, intensely erotic it's not something as straightforward as the libidinous, it's like a mixture of the physical and the divine, ach, I can't get it to make sense, I'm just outing myself as "falling in love" with Ann-Margret in that scene! Decades later, she was just as appealing in Grumpy Old Men. I guess what this digression amounts to is that I like Ann-Margret. Fascinating, I'm sure. (Curious Magic connection. Ann-Margret is joined in Grumpy Old Men by Burgess "Gangrene" Meredith! As I'm sure you already know.) Don't get me into Audrey Hepburn singing "Moon River" being one of the most heartbreakingly perfect things in existence... <br />Vent all you like, I might be (morally?!) flexible in some areas but that "boobs" comment really stuck out to me as unpleasant (Burgess Meredith's slightly senile character from G.O.M. has a number of ridiculous sexual metaphors such as "(take a ride) on the old baloney pony!" which I found hilarious because they was so absurd, and they aren't aimed at anything in particular, other than embarrassing his son, Jack Lennon. There's a difference between *that* and treating a woman like a pair of breasts who - my God! - shows she has a mind as well. Join me in a chorus of "Isn't It Romantic?). I better apologize for venting myself - but I love it too much! <br /> I appreciate the "good eye" remark a great deal. <br />Sincerely, <br />RobertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-39876646994133729092023-01-13T05:01:21.212-08:002023-01-13T05:01:21.212-08:00Hi Robert - Just to add a note to the kind of obse...Hi Robert - Just to add a note to the kind of observation you commonly make that can spark a much longer conversation: At the time the film was being made William Goldman was very vocal about his love of Ann-Margret and how he wrote Peggy Ann with her in mind. But if you read the book, it's almost startling the way she's referred to. The book is loaded with references to her breasts. That one remark in the film is startlingly reserved given the number of off-color boob remarks Fats/Corky makes about Peggy Ann in the novel. And what got me was that I had the impression Goldman meant this as flattery. <br />There's a certain generational conditioning that a lot of older women have to overt sexism. They DO think the whistle, the pinch, the blatant remark about some part of their anatomy is something to be laughed off (because, in their day, there was no option to do anything else). But that was something that always struck me about the book, and you're the first person I can remember who ever commented on that distasteful bit in the movie. <br />You've got a good eye, Robert! Thanks for letting me vent.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-78250537323324829112023-01-08T18:56:54.530-08:002023-01-08T18:56:54.530-08:00You flatter me, Mr Anderson. I'm very happy yo...You flatter me, Mr Anderson. I'm very happy you found my observations worthwhile and entertaining. <br /> There's one thing I, ah, forgot to remember (I'll start quoting Elvis in a moment, look out!), you mention the very talented Jay Johnson in this post and apart from agreeing with you about him being closer to Corky (a name I find unaccountably annoying, I suppose it's supposed to be vaudevillian) it reminds me of something that connects Magic and the sitcom Soap. There's an awful scene in which the terminally - later, literally - unfunny Fats says something about Ann-Margret being "more than a pair of boobs", first, although Corky is supposed to be disassociated from the dummy's personality would he *really* say that about her character, she's not Dolly Parton so why would even a wooden creep like the psycho Pinnochio identify her by that physical feature; secondly, Peggy Ann *laughs* at this, as beaten-down as she seems, would she? It felt nauseating and simply wrong. I don't know what the intention was there but it was bizarre. Peggy Ann doesn't know Corky's gone Co-Co like a cuckoo bird, so wouldn't she think it was *him* who was being a jerk? I'd think so but perhaps I'm wrong. The connection this brought to mind was a very early scene from Jay's tenure on Soap: The family know that Jay believes his dummy is alive or affects to do so and said dummy will say the most hilariously insulting, totally inappropriate things. Jay and his wooden friend are seated at a table for breakfast when Katherine Helmond's kooky Jessica enters; the very funny and oddly attractive Katherine/Jessica was generously-endowed so the dummy takes one look at her at the same time as Jay (whose character is as quiet and repressed as the dummy is loud and irrepressible) and without preamble blurts out nothing else but "Big ones!", Jessica who fails to notice the most obvious of things betrays almost no reaction to this which makes it funny. (It may not *sound* funny but it's so quick and hilariously stupid on-screen, specifically the dummy's ludicrous expression as he/it "reacts and Jessica's own befuddled non-reaction.) The dummy is a complete asshole - if you'll excuse the term - to everyone, with absolutely no filter. Of course he's going to notice, and *of course* he's going to say the crassest thing possible. The reason why this works and manages to be funny in the way that Fats insulting Peggy Ann *doesn't" is that it isn't part of a longer serious conversation and that Jessica has been established as the kind of character who would think that a) there's nothing weird about about a "dummy" blurting that out and b) yes, she does have "big ones". Anyone else might say, "How'd you like to snap your head off at the neck and ram it up your wooden backside, pencil dick!" but it doesn't affect her as the kind of character she is. The other thing is that Susan Harris wrote it, I think there's virtually no way she wouldn't have written it if Katherine Helmond wasn't okay with it. We laugh at the dummy for being an outrageous jerk and because at various times he gets his (stuffed in the freezer for example), but we don't find Fats funny because he tends to be abusive and virtually never even vaguely amusing. Jay Johnson's dummy looks ridiculous, he has a smiling demeanour that contrasts with the things he says. He's (it's?) a malevolent little weasel while Fats is so creepy that it is hard to believe anyone at anytime could laugh at him. <br /> I do wonder, remembering those two scenes if Susan Harris had *read* Magic as there's a similarity between them. In the original plan for Soap, it would have been revealed that Jay/the dummy who murdered Robert Urich's Peter before the character(s) proved so popular she made Robert Mandan's Chester (spoiler alert for a fortysomething sitcom! - the killer instead. <br /> If William Goldman had brought Susan Harris as a ghostwriter Fats might have been funny and perhaps she would have edited that dreadful "boobs" comment that hints at something unpleasant about how Corky - who supposedly loves her - sees her. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-1891413606260710522023-01-07T19:57:07.107-08:002023-01-07T19:57:07.107-08:00Hi Robert – I like all your posted comments, but t...Hi Robert – I like all your posted comments, but this one is a bit different in conveying the immediacy of your experience. You point out things with a clarity that reflects how recently you took notice of them. That and you wonderful way with words that gets the point across with a wit that is very much a glimpse into YOU. It gives the reader a sense of being spoken to personally.<br />This is particularly apparent in your thoughful analysis of Ann-Margret’s performance and why her humanity introduces the much-needed emotional stakes in this surprisingly unsurprising thriller (you nail it with the JAWS analogy!).<br />There are so many unique and sharp-eyed things you take note of that I had a ball reading every word. Citing a few favorites: those absolutely awful puns of FATS! I’ll never understand why William Goldman didn’t hire a real comedy writer to write Corky’s act. It’s terrible material – I love your Ed Lauter observation. Genius! – I laughed aloud at your noting the all-purpose “dump it in the lake” solution. <br />Wonderfully entertaining revisiting this somehow still watchable movie again through your eyes and via your British wit. Thank you!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-48908043699858912412023-01-04T20:44:09.226-08:002023-01-04T20:44:09.226-08:00In a piece of bizarre synchronicity I read this ye...In a piece of bizarre synchronicity I read this yesterday and Magic was on (Talking Pictures TV, a channel dedicated to older - and sometimes ancient and obscure, also not infrequently terrible, even to me - film and television. Recently they screened the 1970s movie Child's Play and The Changeling neither of which I'd had the opportunity to see before, though obviously - or not - I was aware of the latter. This is one of those terribly fascinating parenthetical from which it's difficult to extricate myself!) tonight. Reading your remembrance/analysis again, I can say your explication of why the movie doesn't work is uncannily accurate. The ventriloquist is a nutcase? Ohmigod! It's like The Sixth Sense two decades early! Who would guess THAT was the twist. Apart from everyone. It is as if people felt that revealing there was a shark in Jaws qualified as a spoiler or a twist itself. <br /> Ann-Marget does indeed bring nuance to an empty role. The stills you have of her lying on the bed or laughing really capture the humanity she brings. She is a beautiful woman but that's not on her mind at all (there are words for men and women who are obsessed with their "beauty": Mimbo, bimbo, twerp, social media influencer, she is nothing like them) as Ann-Margret makes her a real person, she is riven with disappointment and an almost existential loneliness. If screen acting is often the ability to project the soul of a character through "being", through physicality, through a look then this is a very good performance. I appreciate her work here tremendously, even if the film itself is like a shaggy dog joke without the joke. Or the shaggy dog (Fred McMurray?). <br /> Burgess Meredith as Ben Green a.k.a. Gangrene is a hoot. I find myself mesmerized by his bald pate and appalled when - spoiler - he is inevitably offed by that unfunny wooden bastard. Gangrene? That's a play on words so bad even I would leave it in the trash. I'm surprised Ben didn't beat himself to death with Fats to escape his dreadful puns. <br /> Your dissection of Anthony Hopkins's performance is bang on the money; complex, sympathetic (apart from the murdering but don't we all have our flaws? Some of us scratch ourselves inappropriate in company, some of us watch Paul Blart: Mall Cop 3-D, some of us vote Tory/G.O.P., some of us invade Ukraine), broken, stricken with anxiety, desperate for release, entirely miscast. I like ventriloquists (hey, stop! Come back! Where are you going?!) and I can't see Hopkins's Corky being successful as one for a moment - Fats's hideous creepiness aside - as he is too obviously a mental case. It would be a surprise if he *didn't* start killing people - during his act. As with Marathon Man the Nobel's twist is disposed of because it can't really work on screen and what we are left with is a creepy anecdote stretched out for far too long. Burgess, Hopkins, Ed Lauter (he really should have been cast as Clint Eastwood's brother in something), the great David Ogden Stiers, and Ann-Margret all bring pleasure but Dickie Attenborough's direction, William Goldman's script, and the concept fail to bring enough to the table to make this anything but a misfire. And that ending! Poor Ann-Margret. (On the other hand, it made it even more of a sick shaggy dog joke. Sometimes not a great notion.)<br /> On a lighter note, I found it funny that Fats's genius solution to every problem was to dump the body in the lake. I could imagine the movie continuing for hours as Corky/Fats keeps snapping and dispatching people until no boats can get out onto the lake because it's chock-a-block with corpses. "Brings a whole new meanin' to the word corpsin', don't it, Cork?" "Shut up, Fats!" *Corky gibbers*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-28519093896732379032021-11-09T08:25:28.885-08:002021-11-09T08:25:28.885-08:00Thank you, Gill! The TV commercial for this film a...Thank you, Gill! The TV commercial for this film and its attendant nightmare represents perhaps the 1st "cinema zeitgeist" moment to pass me by. Like PSYCHO or WAIT UNTIL DARK for me, MAGIC (the TV commercial) represented an entire generation of kids sharing a common childhood terror memory. And I was left out of it by being too old at the ripe old age of 21!<br />Thank you very much for reading this and commenting, Gill!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-59594837963227969962021-11-08T21:54:44.917-08:002021-11-08T21:54:44.917-08:00I love your take on this. as a kid had nightmares ...I love your take on this. as a kid had nightmares for weeks after seeing the ad. Reviewed it myself, love your thoughts and probably one of my favourite horrors. Realweegiemidget Reviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07112425802962283173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-63718924176974347252017-08-15T04:09:29.845-07:002017-08-15T04:09:29.845-07:00Hi Kyle
I'm sorry to say that I got the best l...Hi Kyle<br />I'm sorry to say that I got the best laugh out of your vividly descriptive account of a moment of childhood psychological trauma. But I only laughed out of being able to relate (having been traumatized beyond reason by the premiere of"Psycho" on TV when I was small); and out of jealousy.<br />I haven't read this piece in a while, but I think I relate how I was really too old to find the MAGIC commercial frightening. But I am somewhat jealous of those able to be so impacted by something on film. You lose it a bit as you age, and I miss that.<br />Movies did make the theater circuit more than once in the 70s, so no doubt you correctly recall encountering that poster after the initial trailer. <br /><br />I certainly feel for you 3-year-old self, and can only imagine what your young mind made of that horrific-looking doll. And the fact that it remained with you for years (even to this day) honestly is the best testament for two things about film: 1) What really scares people can be something deceptively simple and small, 2) Film has power. It never has been as benign a medium as its pop entertainment status would lead us to believe.<br />Got a huge kick out of your contribution here (no, you are not alone) and I'm glad you landed here by mistake and took the time to both read and comment. Thank you for your compliment, and I honestly wish you a future of no more annual Fats nightmares.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-51486816195655893802017-08-14T22:03:30.280-07:002017-08-14T22:03:30.280-07:00I ended up here by accident but am not surprised t...I ended up here by accident but am not surprised to read of the trauma inflicted by the "Magic" trailer that ran in the late '70s. I was three years old and was seeing a movie with my parents when the trailer aired in theaters. My mother said I screamed at the top of my lungs and we had to leave the theater because I was so upset. Every time we went to the movies after, I remember asking if the "Magic" commercial would be shown. I also distinctly remember the creepy poster featuring the upper half of Fat's face in the theater lobby. (I think this was from a second-run of the film. Did films make the theater circuit more than once in the '70s?) My timeline is a bit jagged. Anyhow, I remained haunted by Fats' giant ugly head and cawing voice as a kid and well into my teenage years, when I finally forced myself to watch "Magic" on VHS. Bad idea. To this day, as a 42-year-old man, I STILL have Fats nightmares, averaging about one per year. Crazy! Glad to see I'm not alone. I really enjoyed your well-written blog piece on this topic. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16934907621033725818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-4584957583041141322016-08-08T23:18:16.968-07:002016-08-08T23:18:16.968-07:00Hi John
Strangely (since Hollywood is really in fu...Hi John<br />Strangely (since Hollywood is really in full-throttle remake mania lately) I've never heard of talk about doing a remake. And though I don't tend to like them, this is one film film that could stand to be remade, I think.<br />I think Hollywood logic goes that one remakes a success, not a failure; but storytelling logic seems to suggest that the filmmakers should try their hand at films that dropped the ball, not the ones that hit homeruns.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-33805640302132138212016-08-08T20:09:11.109-07:002016-08-08T20:09:11.109-07:00Hey Ken has there been any talks about doing a rem...Hey Ken has there been any talks about doing a remake of the 1978 flick!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-58412300168595457152015-11-02T14:19:59.436-08:002015-11-02T14:19:59.436-08:00Hi Joel!
It's been a while! I think you're...Hi Joel!<br />It's been a while! I think you're so right about the level of expectation set by those creepy ads. (I felt similarly about that great, blood-pouring-from-the-elevator-doors trailer for "The Shining"...terrific movie, but nothing equaled what my imagination made of that surreal image).<br />Your feelings about "Magic" echo so many others. Given the pedigree and caliber or talent assembled for the film, there was just such a feeling of "meh" about the final results.<br />As for the casting of Hopkins, considering the "light" nature of the various actors initially considered for the project, it seems like somewhere along the line they lost track of trying to cast for the entire character of Corky, and only sought to cast for his "dark" side.<br />Always amazing to me how these kinds of considerations seem so fundamental yet, filmmakers can sabotage their own (rather costly) efforts by failing to consider them.<br />And thanks for another recommendation for "Brighton Rock" - certainly sounds like a winner.<br />Good to hear from you again, Joel. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-65264958917101096522015-11-02T11:07:49.382-08:002015-11-02T11:07:49.382-08:00Hi Ken,
Geez I get busy for a month, take a peek ...Hi Ken,<br /><br />Geez I get busy for a month, take a peek in and you've become a posting machine!!! It's going to take me some time to go through the four recaps I missed. I'm not complaining in the least, I'm impressed most of all.<br /><br />So off to the races with the first. I also remember those deeply freaky ads which actually kept me from seeing its first time around. I think it was one of the first things I rented on VHS though because of Ann-Margret's inclusion in the cast.<br /><br />I wasn't overly thrilled with it then, though since its been years I should give it a re-watch, because of several of the things you mentioned. The biggest is Anthony Hopkins unsuitability in the lead. <br /><br />It seems wrong to put it that way since he gives his customarily exquisitely observed performance but as you said there is no lightness in his onscreen persona. In interviews he is often warm and humorous but that's not the same thing, there is always an intensity in the way he speaks and his body language. It seems strange that the filmmakers couldn't see it but it's a major handicap of the picture. <br /><br />The other thing is that the commercial set the bar too high. Something that deeply disturbing due to both its simplicity and brevity would be a hard expectation for even Hitchcock or Michael Powell to meet.<br /><br />It's been too long for me to have a vivid memory of Ann-Margret's work other than to remember that she was unsurprisingly very good in the film but I really should give it another view if only for her work.<br /><br />Oh and I second Argyle's suggestion of Brighton Rock. Attenborough was justly proud of it, the film is a good one and his performance excellent. It was a big breakthrough for him taking him from respected supporting player to the top of the British acting world and beyond.joel65913https://www.blogger.com/profile/14526657073681774683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-85977589826956208712015-10-14T13:23:38.023-07:002015-10-14T13:23:38.023-07:00Hello Argyle!
I think perhaps the atmosphere of &q...Hello Argyle!<br />I think perhaps the atmosphere of "Magic" (damp and moody) lingers longer than the details of the plot. It's one of the things about the film that has always stayed with me.<br />Attenborough is so good in "Seance on a Wet Afternoon" I hope you get a chance to see it sometime. Me, I've always had a hankering to see the Albert Finney "Night Must Fall" (I love the Robert Montgomery/Rosalind Russell version) and I'm too cheap to rent the YouTube streamer.<br />Ironically, just as you don't have a clear memory of "magic", I saw Anthony Hopkins in "Remains of the Day" and remember so very little about it. Except maybe his character reminds me of the downstairs guy on "Downton Abbey." <br />Also, I've never seen "Brighton Rock" before (nor heard of it), but according to the DVD extras on "Magic" one way to get on Attenborough's good side was to mention to him you saw it. Apparently he was very proud of it. <br />Thanks Argyle. Always enjoy hearing in which ways our movie paths cross!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-87035531728745524252015-10-13T09:38:37.918-07:002015-10-13T09:38:37.918-07:00Argyle here. I’m pretty sure I saw this around re...Argyle here. I’m pretty sure I saw this around release time, maybe “second-run on campus” as MDG mentioned. I’m sure I was scared/creeped-out but don’t really have any concrete recollections. For me it sort of ends up in that “Sleuth”/“Deathtrap” fog. Classy actors, set-bound, English accents, but scary! (And I don’t mean that to sound so bitter.) Like the TV ad which I’m not sure I ever saw, that print ad was very well designed, which says something. After reading your essay, I went down the Richard Attenborough rabbit hole which I would typically avoid (“Ghandi”) because I have liked him as an actor (“Brighton Rock”). That lead me back to re-read your essay on “Seance on a Wet Afternoon” which I still haven’t seen and am desperate now to see. Then I had to check to see if he was in “The Entertainer” with Laurence Olivier which I really love because the photography is so bright and the story’s so grim. He isn’t, but Albert Finney is which is funny because it was all reminding me of “Night Must Fall” from 1964 with AF. I definitely remember seeing that on TV when I was pretty young and loving it. It’s incredibly grey and damp and he has been up to something really grisly and much is made of a black leather hat box and a wooden glove form if I remember correctly. To a kid it felt really twisted and just the tone of it was mesmerizing. It’s something I have always wanted to see again. And looking it up I find it was directed by Karel Reisz which is pretty good. I’ve always linked Albert Finney and Anthony Hopkins, similar ages, backgrounds and kind of exceptional, quiet careers. I really love AH in “Remains of the Day.” Again, more damp and moodiness. As always, thank you Ken!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-26544663923211748522015-10-12T13:22:56.753-07:002015-10-12T13:22:56.753-07:00Hi MDG
Let's hear it for the shout out to the ...Hi MDG<br />Let's hear it for the shout out to the late Ed lauter! Like so many feel about character actor Jack Carson, Lauter gave so many consitantlysold performances that he was easy to overlook and underappreciate. <br />Like what Ann-Margret was able to do with her stock, male adolescent fantasy role, Lauter makes the brutish character of Duke come across as movingly self-disappointed as Corky and Peggy.<br /><br />Goldman's an interesting case to me. He always struck me as a good writer but never a surprising one. He reminds me of those guys who taught screenwriting when i was in film school...everything was about finding the "formula" for storytelling. The goal being to give audiences what they anticipate, never to shake them up.<br /><br />By the way, I liked your observation: "It feels like less a descent into madness than a couple steps down."Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-63490306532573040252015-10-12T09:38:17.429-07:002015-10-12T09:38:17.429-07:00I saw this second-run on campus around the time it...I saw this second-run on campus around the time it came out and (maybe) on cable a year or so after that. I remember liking it at the time, but right now, the only impressions of the movie that come to mind are "gray" and "damp."<br /><br />Hopkins was an unknown quantity to me at the time (and, of course, Hannibal Lechter was years away) so I guess I bought him as the character then, though, like Nicholson in The Shining, it feels like less a descent into madness than a couple steps down. Gene Wilder would've been interesting, but I can't picture anyone else from that list pulling it off.<br /><br />I don't remember the book, though I read pretty much all of his novels when I thought I was a William Goldman fan, based largely on his interview in "The Craft of the Screenwriter," but got a little tired. I don't think I ever made it through "Boys and Girls Together." (And, after all, it turned out I was really a George Roy Hill fan.)<br /><br />A final note: Ed Lauter's good in anything.MDG14450https://www.blogger.com/profile/01123092027299291617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-53751641812280194802015-10-12T06:32:10.955-07:002015-10-12T06:32:10.955-07:00Such a nice thing to say! And thanks for giving me...Such a nice thing to say! And thanks for giving me some perspective of what were of pop cultural interest to those most likely to have been traumatized by that commercial. That mini-list you supply reaffirms my memory of "Magic" as being targeted to an older market.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-53069489195959282212015-10-11T21:01:21.119-07:002015-10-11T21:01:21.119-07:00I had just turned 12 when this movie came out and ...I had just turned 12 when this movie came out and over the years I have often wondered why I was so fascinated by it and wanted so badly to see it (I still haven't). There was nothing particular about it that appealed to me (grease, close encounters & three's company were more to my 11 year-old tastes) but now I realize that I must have seen the trailer!!! Love reading your blogs Ken and for helping to fill in the pieces of my life (-:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-78866742735630913162015-10-11T08:31:33.618-07:002015-10-11T08:31:33.618-07:00You must be clairvoyant! Or we're sharing a si...You must be clairvoyant! Or we're sharing a single soul like Corky And Fats. I just came here to delete my "spoiler alert" because i re-read my post and found I really didn't give anything away the back of the DVD doesn't.<br />Wonderful question, however. Everyone who writes about film has a different take. Mine tends to fall in the realm of context: If I'm writing a review of a movie (which I don't really like to do) - I assume the reader hasn't seen it , even if it's an old movie. But f I'm writing a critical essay, I feel it is designed for those familiar with the film. My only deviation is when a movie is somewhat obscure and I'm hoping to bring attention to it. Then, I still write in detail, but I give the spoiler alert.<br /><br />Honestly, what is the cut-off point? A fellow blogger told me that she lost a lot of followers after she wrote about how a musical number in Golddiggers of 1935 ends. Would someone be mad if they found out Dorothy goes back to Kansas (oops!) or that Rhett Butler leaves Scarlett? And we all know Miss Karenina winds up under a train, don't we? As you say, baffling .<br /><br />Well, Back to "magic". I had a crush on Hopkins too when he played the gay son in "The Lion in Winter", but after that he kind of remained in the creep zone. Your reaction to the film echoes what a lot of people thought about it. Most admired the screenplay and performances, but the ingredients (so many talented people) promised something more substantial than what was delivered.<br /><br />And no, I don't think there has ever been a film about a benign ventriloquist's dummy. Even in those tame Edgar Bergen and Paul Winchell movies, the dummy has to be a troublemaker or wise-guy. that's his only purpose. That obviousness of setup is what always made me assume "Magic" had something different up its sleeve. As it was, it was merely a better-made variation on the same old stuff.<br />Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-21589271379569768162015-10-11T07:13:47.222-07:002015-10-11T07:13:47.222-07:00Academic question: has any movie/tv show ever feat...Academic question: has any movie/tv show ever featured a BENIGN ventriloquist's dummy? <br /><br />I had a mad crush on Anthony Hopkins at the time of this movie's release (Hopkins being one of Deb's many secret husbands through the years) and remember being so disappointed with it. I was expecting more...I guess "depth" would be the word I'm looking for. It seemed obvious from the start that Hopkins's character was mad, and Ann-Margaret seemed washed-out and underutilized. However, I haven't seen it since 1978, so perhaps I should watch it again this Halloween and see if I need to revise my opinion.<br /><br />Your "spoiler alert" at the beginning of the essay brings up another academic question: is there ever a point in movies or literature where we say "this has been around long enough, everyone should know that [fill in blank] happens"? Or do we use spoiler alerts to keep cinematic (and literary) twists fresh. For instance, I would hate to spoil "Vertigo" for anyone and would always use a spoiler alert if I was going to discuss it, but a few years ago, I read a comment where someone was castigated for "revealing" that Jane marries Mr. Rochester at the end of JANE EYRE! That was a bit baffling!DiscoDollyDebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-1031731984485019182015-10-10T20:44:05.955-07:002015-10-10T20:44:05.955-07:00Hi David
The number of people I know who have actu...Hi David<br />The number of people I know who have actually seen this film is infinitesimal compared to those who steered clear of it due to being freaked out by that commercial. <br />Your description of seeing "Magic"'s commercial for the first time is similar to when I was ten years old and TV ads ran for Audrey hepburn's "Wait Until Dark"...Yikes! Nightmares for days.<br /><br />I hope the ad agency or publicity dept person who created it won some kind of award. I've never known such a phenomenon.<br /><br />As it turned out, Magic came out a week or two after "Halloween" was released, so the older cast and lack of serious bloody mayhem kept a lot of people away. Movies that fall in between genres always have a tough go of it. The audience to whom Ann-Margret's name meant anything, were not likely to go for mad ventriloquist movie. The younger set lured by the ad, didn't appreciate that the film was more a psychological thriller than a horror movie.<br />Thanks for sharing your kindertrauma tale. I've heard from two other readers who labeled themselves "impressionable" and had a reaction similar to yours.Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2627032459273165000.post-27215917503259755732015-10-10T20:14:11.793-07:002015-10-10T20:14:11.793-07:00What a find! I see that it aired in 1979, so it...What a find! I see that it aired in 1979, so it's practically like Johnson's consolation prize for losing the role in "Magic". I agree with you it's not very good (has all the earmarks of fast, TV direction), but seeing him confirms what I always imagined...that Johnson has a suitable creepy undercurrent that perhaps a gifted director could have made use of.<br />As I say, I can't imagining anyone surpassing Hopkins as he descends into madness, but this was a treat to watch. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I do indeed enjoy a good evil dummy story (or Talkie Tina, as the case may be).Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.com