Monday, February 17, 2025

HELLO, DOLLY! 1969

Hello, Dolly!, indeed.
I’ve wanted to write about this movie since I started this blog way back in 2009.

The only thing preventing me was the promise I’d then made to myself—in response to what felt like (in the days of IMDb’s message boards and forums) a pervasive trend toward negativity and combativeness in online film writing and discourse—that I would devote this retro movie blog exclusively to the films I loved and admired most.  
And when it comes to Hello, Dolly! ...well, let's just say my relationship with it is complicated.
Barbra Streisand as Dolly Levi
Walter Matthau as Horace Vandergelder
Michael Crawford as Cornelius Hackl
Marianne McAndrew as Irene Molloy
Danny Lockin as Barnaby Tucker
E. J. (Edra Jean) Peaker as Minnie Fay
Louis Armstrong as Louis, the Orchestra Leader

Hello, Dolly! is that enduring, now-classic 1964 Tony Award-winning musical (with the annoying exclamation point) about a meddlesome matchmaker from Yonkers who sets her personal matrimonial sights on a curmudgeonly, wealthy client. I’m old enough to have seen Hello, Dolly! when it was released in December of 1969, but not being much of a Streisand fan at the time (that changed with 1972’s What’s Up, Doc?) I foolishly backed out of every opportunity to see it. 
That was the winter when I, a precocious, self-serious, hormonal adolescent, was too busy spending my weekends and most of my allowance money going to see Easy Rider, They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?, Midnight Cowboy, and The Sterile Cuckoo...over and over again. The last thing I was interested in was seeing anything rated “G.” Much less a G-rated thing that sang and danced.
Of course, now I could kick myself for not having given up at least one weekend of “Suggested for Mature Audiences” nihilism for the chance to experience Hello, Dolly! on the big screen. More’s the pity because I just know that impressionable, 12-year-old me would have gone utterly gaga over the whole "event" spectacle that is Hello, Dolly! 

If anyone can upstage 4,000 extras, it's Barbra Streisand
And I absolutely live for that moment in “Before the Parade Passes By” when Streisand, arms aloft, striding toward the camera, flanked on both sides by a red-jacketed marching band, brings herself to a theatrical halt to end all theatrical halts, dropping her arms and that big ol’ hat, grounding herself like a rocket before liftoff, then lets fly with that voice that soars to the heavens and shattering all the artificiality around her. It’s a genuine “goosebump moment” in a film with all too few. 
My family lived in San Francisco in 1969, and Hello, Dolly! played in movie theaters for at least a year after its exclusive, reserved-seat, $ 4.50-a-ticket roadshow engagement ended (at which time it became available at “popular prices” in neighborhood theaters on weird-ass double bills with The Battle of Britain or The Kremlin Letter, of all things). But I didn’t get around to seeing Hello, Dolly! until 1974…when it was broadcast on TV, in cropped format, with commercials, on our family’s ginormous living room console. Not the most advantageous of circumstances under which to see my first Barbra Streisand musical, to be sure, but at least by this time, I was an interested party.
Hello, Dolly! had its broadcast TV premiere on Thursday, February 28, 1974. I’m not sure why CBS thought scheduling a 3-hour special movie event on a non-holiday weeknight was a good idea (I was exhausted in school the next day). Maybe timing was a factor: earlier that week, the 1973 Academy Award nominations were announced, and Streisand was up for Best Actress for The Way We Were

So… what were my first impressions of Hello Dolly!
(1) Well, I loved Jerry Herman’s tuneful score (although the beautifully sung, written-for-the-screen ballad [a.k.a., shameless Oscar-nomination bid] “Love is Only Love” was, is, and will forever remain for me, a total slog). 
(2) I enjoyed Michael Kidd’s strenuous “The word I think I’d use is athletic” choreography. 
(3) And although Barbra Streisand’s Dolly Levi makes not a lick of sense to me in the context of the story and casting—I’m supposed to believe this young, glamorous, sexy, and vivacious firecracker of a woman is wasting her time meddling in the love lives of four vapid virgins and one grumpy old man?—I was nevertheless utterly charmed and entranced by her. 

The movie itself…not so much.

As Hello, Dolly! is set in 1860, I've selected a quote from a 19th-century author (re: drawing-room entertainments of the day) that cannily echoes my thoughts on seeing it for the first time. 
If You Ain't Got Elegance
"All is forced, coarse, heavy. The jokes are like cannon-balls, smashing everything in their passage.
 No wit, nothing natural, no sprightliness, no elegance."
  
Guy de Maupassant - The Moustache 1883

As I said, perhaps television wasn't the best showcase for a film of this scale, and likely influenced at least a part of my initial response to Hello Dolly!  
For example, the film's lack of visual distinction (all static shots and overlit sets) was ill-served when subjected to the then-standard practice of cropping the edges of wide-screen movies to better fit the square TV screen. The sight of blandly colorless dancers with fixed, joyless smiles leaping about with mechanical precision in a New York set that, in the minimalized format of television, resembled nothing so much as Disneyland’s Main Street; didn’t scream "$25 million movie musical" so much as suggest a “The Doodletown Pipers Meet The Ernie Flatt Dancers"  TV variety special.
While singing groups like The Doodletown Pipers and Up With People always gave off "cult" vibes to me, their popularity during the "let it all hang out" Sixties reflected a market for aggressively wholesome, MOR entertainment. Hello Dolly!, pitching itself as the family-friendly alternative to the saturated R and X-rated market of the New Hollywood, emerged as one of the top 5 highest-grossing films of 1969/70. (But, due to its hefty production and marketing budget, still wound up losing 20th Century Fox [depending on the source] in the neighborhood of 10 to 30 million dollars.)
The widow Levi serving up a little wholesome, G-rated sex appeal

Given my penchant for falling in love with waaaaay less-than-perfect movies, none of the above-stated would have factored significantly in my feelings for Hello, Dolly! had I just felt something…ANYTHING…for the characters or the story. Outside of the allure of Dolly’s fin de siècle fabulousness, I had no love story to root for and no investment in anything that was going on. By the film’s two-hour mark, I found myself wishing Ambrose and Barnaby would run off together and that Dolly would hook up with one of the Harmonia Garden waiters. 
In the end, I was so disappointed that so much money, talent, and obvious hard work hadn’t resulted in a movie that was more fun. Or even funny.
Coke Eyes and Gaping Maws
No small part of my annoyance with Hello Dolly! is Michael Crawford's creative decision to convey boyish American enthusiasm by imitating a largemouth bass. Similarly, director Gene Kelly has the cast adopt an acting style of contrived naivete that's all cartoonish "takes" and eyes held open so wide that everyone looks like they've just taken a bump 

Despite my complaints and primarily due to the immense pleasure I derive from Streisand's The Three Faces of Eve take on the character of Dolly Levi (she's Mae West! She's Fanny Brice! She's a drag queen!...the fun to be had is in never knowing from scene to scene which Dolly is going to show up), I've always owned a copy of Hello, Dolly! and watched it countless times over the years. Usually à la carte...with the TV remote at the ready, finger poised over the "fast-forward" button. 
So, how does a lifelong cinephile and movie musical lover reconcile himself to this paradox? Well, you take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have: Hello Dolly!…a film for which I’ve never fully resolved my love/hate feelings. (Thank you, Al Burton, Gloria Loring, and Alan Thicke.)
Until now. 
The way Dolly sexily grinds her hips against Horace in "So Long, Dearie" convinces me her matrimonial gameplan is to induce a honeymoon heart attack and go on living happily solo on the old man's half-a-million 
Ironically, the one thing that got me to stop evaluating Hello, Dolly! exclusively through the prism of unrealized potential—putting me on the path toward appreciating the film, warts and all, for what it is—was my late-to-the-party discovery of The Matchmaker (1958), the screen adaptation of the 1954 Thornton Wilder Broadway play that inspired Hello, Dolly! 

The Matchmaker Cast: Shirley Booth, Shirley Maclaine, Paul Ford, Anthony Perkins, and Robert Morse
One of the smartest decisions screenwriter John Michael Hayes (Rear Window, The Children's Hour) made in adapting The Matchmaker to the screen was to dump the superfluous characters of  Ambrose and Ermingarde. If only Hello, Dolly! had done the same

I had never even heard of The Matchmaker before seeing it on TCM sometime in 2001. But it instantly won me over with its abundance of heart, humor, engaging performances, and genuinely sweet-natured charm. The very things I’d felt were missing in action from Hello, Dolly!. I initially thought my falling in love with a practically-perfect-in-every-way adaptation of Wilder’s story would only amplify my dissatisfaction with Hello, Dolly!, but to my surprise, it had the opposite effect.
 
Finally seeing Thornton Wilder’s frothy farce presented on a scale appropriate to its slim plot and humble characters led me to conclude that perhaps part of my issue with Hello, Dolly! might stem from evaluating it by motion picture standards when it’s really not a movie at all; it’s a monument.
An eager-to-please, pull-out-the-stops, Barnum and Bailey Circus of a monument erected to commemorate and pay tribute to the institution that is Hello, Dolly!...a show that, at the time, was one of the most lauded (10 Tony Awards), lucrative, and long-running musicals in Broadway history.
Suspended in Time 
The movie I once dismissed as the kind of musical Hollywood needed to stop making, I now appreciate as a last-gasp souvenir of a style and type of Hollywood filmmaking that is gone forever 


Thinking of Hello, Dolly! this way has turned me into a more appreciative audience. Where I once felt the film’s chief liability was its dogged devotion to the proved-to-be-fatal Hollywood dictum that bigger, busier, noisier, and more expensive was ALWAYS better. Now, simply because these qualities affix Hello, Dolly! squarely in a specific time and place in Hollywood history—the sets, costumes, production numbers, and sheer spectacle of it all shine brighter for me than they ever did. 

On Feb. 29, 1968, a month before Hello, Dolly! began filming (and nine months after Streisand's casting), Carol Channing not-so-subtly thumbed her nose at 20th Century Fox while giving America a glimpse of what it stood to miss in the way of comedy chemistry by having Walter Matthau guest on her TV special. 
As Broadway’s first singing Dolly (from 1964-1967), Carol Channing was so affectionately identified with the role that the casting of anyone else in the film version was bound to be controversial no matter who it was. But when news broke that the Hollywood parade had passed by 46-year-old Channing in favor of 25-year-old, hot-as-a-fuse Barbra Streisand—the very person Channing had beat out for Best Actress at the 1964 Tony Awards (Channing won for Hello, Dolly! against Streisand in Funny Girl)—the outcry over perceived miscasting turned it into a cause célèbre that raged unabated for over a year.
 
Billboard - May 9, 1964
Hello, Dolly! has often been dismissed as a "one-song musical" by critics. But when it comes to that one song, no one is more responsible for its widespread recognition and success than Louis Armstrong. His 1964 recording won Grammys for Best Song and Best Male Performance and gave the 62-year-old jazz legend his first and only #1 hit, famously dethroning The Beatles. I’ve always thought of Armstrong’s brief guest appearance in Hello Dolly! as one of the film’s few moments of magic. It’s the only moment in the entire film when Streisand looks relaxed and genuinely happy.



GOOD GOLLY, MISS DOLLY or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
If part of my making peace with Hello, Dolly! means accepting that my heart will be on a bit of a starvation diet, I take comfort in knowing that—thanks to the modern innovations of Blu-ray, restoration, widescreen HD television, and impeccable digital audio—my eyes, ears, and nervous system will be treated to a veritable feast. Watching the title song production number and the breathtaking "Waiter's Gallop," I found myself feeling for the first time a sense of gratitude that Hello, Dolly! is such an overinflated totem of studio-era excess.

PERFORMANCES 
Time has made the supporting cast of Hello, Dolly! less of an irritation to me (they're all so young, they're kind of cute now). Walter Matthau will ever be a favorite, his reactions and line deliveries being the source of many of the film's meager laughs: "Any man who comes to the city deserves what happens to him." 
But I've often wondered if the creators of Hello, Dolly! didn’t fully recognize what a screen presence powerhouse they had in Barbra Streisand (Funny Girl hadn’t yet been released when "Dolly" went into production); otherwise, it's hard to understand why they didn’t see it as a problem that her character is offscreen for so long. The stage show is built to give an older actress lots of rest…but when you’re fortunate enough to have Streisand in a musical, do you really want to give so much screen time over to those dull ingenues and juveniles?   

THE STUFF OF DREAMS
"I thought she did the BEST job she could do."
 - Carol Channing's slightly shady appraisal - Dec. 29, 1969 
Perhaps because I don't think of Hello, Dolly! as a "great" musical in the first place (ergo, impervious to being "ruined" in any significant way), I don't have any problem with the built-in contradiction of my thinking Barbra Streisand is most definitely miscast as Dolly, yet I find her to be 100% perfect. There's just no way I'd ever be disappointed to have one of the preeminent entertainers of my generation showcased in a vehicle like this. As unpleasant an experience as it was for Streisand in the making (as detailed in her EPIC memoir), I will be forever grateful that it exists. Streisand's not perfect in it...she's better than perfect, she's exquisite.
Hello, Dolly! is over 55 years old. Barbra Streisand is over 80. And I’m somewhere there in between. Sure, Hello, Dolly!, much like myself on certain mornings, can be lumbering and stiff. But just as I’ve found peace in not focusing on my aches and pains and learned to simply celebrate the fact that I’m still here, I'm glad—after so many years of back and forth—I can at last accord Dolly Levi a similar grace. 


BONUS MATERIAL:
Gene Kelly puts his handprints in cement in the forecourt of Hollywood’s Grauman’s Chinese Theater on November 24, 1969, just prior to Hello Dolly!’s December 16th West Coast premiere.
The young ladies behind him are the stars of Fox's forthcoming X-rated release Beyond the Valley of the Dolls - Marcia McBroom and Cynthia Myers in Irene Sharaff-designed costumes from Hello, Dolly!
During the '90s I worked for a time as Walter Matthau's personal trainer. After taking months to win over his confidence, he was finally comfortable enough with me to share some anecdotes about the making of "Dolly" after I begged to know the details. Without going into it, let me just say that in having heard the exact same story Streisand relates in her memoir more than 20 years before she wrote it, the talk about their not getting along during the filming is true (his recounting of the rude comment he made to her was accompanied by a surprisingly spot-on Streisand impersonation), as is the fact that they became good friends...or at least friendly...later. 

The hemlines of women's skirts fluctuated rapidly in the 1960s, but it's got nothing on the 1890s, as evidenced by these screencaps of the "Dancing" sequence, showing Minnie Fay's dress growing shorter by the second.  

Barnaby Tucker and Minnie Fay
Two-time Tony Award winner Robert Morse made his Broadway debut at 24, originating the role of Barnaby Tucker in The Matchmaker, later reprising his performance in the film. In 1968, Morse co-starred with E.J. Peaker (24 when she made her screen debut in Hello, Dolly!) in the musical sitcom That's Life, which ran for a single season on ABC. 
Richard Amsel, one of my all-time favorite illustrators, was just 21 and a recent art school graduate when his submission for 20th Century Fox's nationwide talent contest (to design a poster for Hello, Dolly!) was selected, launching his brief but prolific career. His iconic artwork for the Hello, Dolly! poster is noted for the era-specific, Boomer-recognizable Spirograph-style design of the flowers adorning Mrs. Levi's enormous hat.

Streisand & Matthau in a clip from Hello, Dolly!

Copyright © Ken Anderson   2009 - 2024

17 comments:

  1. Bonjour Ken,
    Thanks for writing about Hello, Dolly! Your "problems" with the film are exactly the ones I have, the difference being I never saw it. Always felt it was a monster Old in New Hollywood thing crumbling under its own ambition and weight. I was not even sure about the camp possibilities of it and dreaded stiffness all around. So I haven't seen it (I haven't seen Funny Girl and Funny Lady for the exact same reasons, do I have a problem with Barbra?) but your post will change that.
    Now, I saw Hello, Dolly! on stage in Lido2 in Paris a couple of weeks ago. Caroline O'Connor was the star and it was totally sensational. Funny, flamboyant, touching (having a super pro 60+ y.o. in the part makes a big difference difference I suppose) and great music too, that I never knew except for the title song. Before the Parade passes by even had me discreetly cry.
    So now I will watch the Streisand film on the Blu ray I bought long time ago. Thanks for the reminder!

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    1. Hello, Tom,
      My surprise at your never having seen “Hello, Dolly!” is mixed with a bit of admiration. Unless they’re action or adventure movies or war films, I (all too often) find heavily hyped films with big stars hard to resist. And my susceptibility to hype usually comes at a cost.
      None of your expressed reservations about "Hello, Dolly!" are unfounded.
      It’s genuinely a matter of tolerance and taste when it comes to those big musicals. If you aren't predisposed to like the star, the massive vehicles built around them tend to amplify all your annoyances.

      Since you’ve seen and enjoyed a stage production of "Dolly" so recently, I think you at least will enjoy comparing the two. It’s bound to be a lesson in the art (or folly) of adaptation.

      Out of curiosity, I checked out a TikTok video of the complete curtain call from the "Hello, Dolly!" production you attended, and oh my God…it looks amazing. The diverse cast looks so charming in their roles. Even in the cleverly staged curtain call, I could tell that the tone of the farce must have been spot-on. The actors playing Dolly and Horace looked especially delightful.

      I can easily imagine your being being moved by it (Shirley Booth and Paul Ford in "The Matchmaker" ALWAYS give me waterworks. With "Hello, Dolly!" my eyes usually stay as dry as the Sahara, but I got a bit choked up the last time I saw it with—you guessed it—"Before the Parade Passes By”).

      And I completely agree when you say having an older Dolly adds a sense of poignancy. Streisand’s Dolly is so young that you never doubt for a second she has a lifetime of new adventures ahead of her. However, when you see an older actress in the role, the whole “last chance at love” theme really strikes a chord.

      I hope, when you eventually watch "Hello, Dolly!" (Bravo! I’m rooting for you), there will be a write-up about it on your blog. I would love to read what a newbie thinks about a movie I first saw when I was a cynical-but-sweet 16-year-old.
      C'est merveilleux d'avoir de tes nouvelles, Tom.
      Thanks for reading this and sharing your well-founded reluctance toward big Hollywood musicals (or is it just the Streisand ones? Have you seen "On a Clear Day You Can See Forever"?)
      I miss your beautiful posts on social media. Hope all is well with you!
      Cheers!

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  2. I have never seen a stage production of Dolly, but I did see "The Matchmaker" recently, and of course I know the Jerry Herman score backwards and forwards. Summer of 1970 we were in LA, and I have a vivid memory of seeing "Hello Dolly!" but I don't remember it making much of an impact -- NOTHING like "Funny Girl," which I didn't see until 1972 (in a UK cinema). So my impressions are largely from the DVD. It's definitely a "they don't make 'em like that anymore" movie, but it was that even in 1969. The late Sixties was a rough time for musicals, because the studio resources were so diminished. Fox would have made a very different film 20 years earlier (alas, there was no "Hello Dolly!" then) -- smaller, more intimate, more fun -- imagine Betty Grable or Betty Hutton (on loan-out natch) or....I can't think of a brassy middle-aged musical star from back then who would be quite right, sadly. (Ann Sothern?). Anyway, the Streisand version is simply over-produced -- WAY too many dancers, elaborate back-lot sets, too long, and aside from the two leads, too bland. As you say, it feels like Main Street, Disneyland, it's all so clean, over-lit (like so many of those late Sixties/early Seventies musicals), with those endless musical numbers. Think of how great the dancers in a film like "The Harvey Girls" or "Meet Me in St. Louis" or "Carousel" looked -- they just looked "right" for the period, not like the bland, cookie-cutter dancers on a late Sixties variety show: polished, for sure, but more efficient than inspired. All that said, it has its moments for me, mostly Streisand singing, and the numbers staged in Yonkers (actually Garrison I believe) are exciting -- I guess that's mostly "Sunday Clothes." I'm glad the movie exists because it's a fun Streisand musical performance (and she looks gorgeous) and she didn't make many musical films, and musically it's good, and of course big-budget lavishness has its virtues, especially since those days are over. It could have been worse: Lucille Ball.

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    1. Of course by resources I don't mean money; I mean a huge factory system focused on product, and much more pressure to get things done on schedule and not allow things to get out of control (which they invariably did from time to time), and a deep, deep company of supporting players who could handle anything thrown their way.

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    2. Hello, Peter –
      Yes, at the end of the day, I’m with you in being glad HELLO DOLLY exists simply because it preserves an enjoyable Streisand musical performance (and she does look outrageously gorgeous) at her vocal peak and before the self-serious nonsense of A STAR IS BORN.
      And, as you hilariously note—Lucille Ball!—it most definitely could have been worse (I’m in the camp that feels Fox dodged a HUGE bullet by not casting Carol Channing. I love her, but a little of her goes a very long way).

      I can’t believe you actually saw HELLO DOLLY as a kid in a theater! I’m so jealous and a so surprised it didn’t leave a bigger impression on you. I mean, even musicals I mostly disliked (like the dreadful PAINT YOUR WAGON which I somehow managed to see 4 times in 1969/1970 because it was always being paired with movies I wanted to see) were somewhat awe-inspiring just for being so big, loud, and colorful.
      I completely know what you mean about how differently a vehicle like HELLO DOLLY would have been handled in the days when the studio system was in full flower. By the mid-60s, most studios noted for their in-house, assembly-line, “dream factory” polish were fully dismantled or down to skeleton crew versions of their glory days.
      The examples you use are perfect. I think about how a sense of period accuracy is conveyed in MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS—maybe critics at the time decried that everyone looks like they are stuck in the 1940s, but to my eyes, the cast looked “right” for the period. HELLO, DOLLY! distracts (as FUNNY GIRL did in its own way) because all the extras look so Sixties and the dancers never look like characters, only dancers (those couples in the park in “Dancing” all look alike and don’t give off any sense of romance or feeling…just athleticism).

      From reading about its production, HELLO DOLLY seemed plagued by the need for speed, turning Gene Kelly into a traffic cop and crowd control official instead of a director. The actors give off a feeling of everyone fending for themselves and having crafted their performances independently of anyone else in the cast.
      Have you seen any of the screen tests for the secondary cast? Unless casting decisions were made based on who was cheapest to hire, I can’t believe they passed over some of those auditioning (Jo Anne Worley, Sandy Duncan) in favor of the final choices.

      I’ve only seen one theatrical production of HELLO DOLLY, and I found the material definitely benefits from an intimate approach.
      I love the idea of someone like Betty Hutton as Dolly.
      When I think of movie stars our era, I can never think of anyone I would have preferred besides Elizabeth Taylor. I think Streisand mentioned her in her memoir and as soon as I heard that, I thought YES! Not being able to sing or dance? No problem (see: PAINT YOUR WAGON’s entire principal cast).

      It's nice to hear that, even though you're not much of a fan of the movie, you, too find a few things to enjoy about it and concede that, if nothing else, HELLO DOLLY is a kind of historical validity as a kind of symbol of a bygone Hollywood era.
      So terrific to hear from you, Peter! Thanks for reading this and commenting. Hope you're well and as busy as ever.

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    3. Okay, I rewatched a few parts. The way "Dancing" transitions into "Parade Passes By" is quite thrilling, and Barbra's quiet moments are touching. A few thoughts: One of my big beefs with these overblown Sixties musicals are those shadow choruses with arrangements that sound straight from the Easy Listening remainder bin--or the outro music for "Darling Lili." (Another offender, the "Lusty Month of May" from Camelot. Nobody is actually singing on screen and the chorus evokes "Hollywood Palace" more than medieval England). This technique has dated so badly--it's sheer camp. Second, while the Michael Kidd choreography is wonderful (if overly theatrical and gymnastic) there's just too. much. of. it. (Can we blame Gene Kelly for this?) It feels endless. Tommy Tune was cute in "My One and Only" but here I found his towering presence disturbing, especially next to his petite partner: that sort of quirky character dancing works better onstage imo -- though Ray Bolger and Marjorie Main are a scream in "Round and Round" from "The Harvey Girls." Finally, Barnaby and Cornelius push way too hard, kind of like Mickey Rooney when he outgrew Andy Hardy but kept being cast as juveniles (like in "Summer Holiday"). I found them exhausting. The great thing about Matthau (and Barbra) is that his energy is perfect for the screen; their's isn't.

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    4. I share the same frustration with those chorus singers (Hollywood Palace…HA!)
      In HELLO DOLLY, every time one of those ensemble pieces has the chance to shine, in come the Ray Conniff singers with their lifeless, elevator-music style that drains all the energy from the number. It felt outdated and reminiscent of Lawrence Welk in 1969, but I recall how they used the same bland, MOR chorus singing in 1973’s LOST HORIZON.
      Michel Kidd’s wife used to take my dance class (she was the dance assistant on HELLO DOLLY), and she shared how Kidd and Kelly didn’t have an easy relationship. Kidd faced pressure not to replicate Gower Champion’s stage choreography, and although Kelly had promised to leave all the dancing to Kidd, it seemed he couldn’t resist coming up with “ideas,” which created a bit of tension.
      I’m not fond of Tommy Tune in this… he’s so charming in THE BOY FRIEND, but here he kind of just grates. As you note, everything feels rather theatrical instead of cinematic. It’s a style choice, but it makes the film come across stiffer than necessary.
      I believe THE HARVEY GIRLS is a good example of when this kind of period piece works.
      I also think Streisand and Matthau hit a nice Mae West/W.C. Fields stride of comic naturalism, but the rest of the cast… oh, brother!

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  3. Argyle here. (It's been a while for me, but I continue to enjoy everything you write.) I'll just jump right in - the Guy de Maupassant quote is spot on. There is no elegance, no languor, no spontaneity. I blame it on late career Gene Kelly and maybe studio-interfering pressure. At times it's like being in a Cracker Barrel gift shop. I always avoided it. "Funny Girl" had been a completely unknown/unexpected revelation for me and I could tell (even as an 11 year old in 1969) that this was not going to be good. So I never could stand to watch it in its entirety until a couple of years ago. My mother (who could be very uncharitable toward all of the later period female musical stars) loved "Hello, Dolly!" She thought Walter Matthau's character was very funny, which he is, and she loved the title song. (She was brutal in her disdain for Liza, Barbra, Shirley McC, even Julie Andrews - only "Mary Poppins" worked for her. It was crazy, and funny.) When I finally watched HD - yes, the secondary cast, the mugging, the eye popping, the over-lit everything was annoying and tedious. I don't think I would ever run out to see a stage production.
    (Here comes my mother: I can imagine it dovetailed perfectly with Bette Midler's worst qualities.) But somehow I made it through and actually kind of enjoyed it. I could watch it again maybe. I did see "The Matchmaker" years ago and loved it. Shirley Booth is always so good ("Come Back, Little Sheba"). And then there's the song "Ribbons Down My Back" which is so good and a break from all the forced frivolity. And there seems like there's a kind of melancholy song that Barbra sings alone in her room? Is that the written-for-the film song? I do love the Amstel poster art (hello, divine Miss M!) I can't help speculating - what if Bob Fosse or Milos Forman had gotten hold of this? Sorry for jumping all over the place. Thank you for writing!

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    1. Hi, Argyle –
      It’s been quite a while for me, as well!
      I must say that your even-handed perspective, matching that of the other initial comments here has been very eye-opening for me. A long-held resistance I’ve had to writing about HELLO DOLLY was the belief that the film was such a sacred cow to Streisand fans that I’d be setting myself up for a lot of online white-knighting and fanboy abuse (fanseniors I guess, given how old you’d have to be to even care enough to argue about HELLO DOLLY at all) if I expressed anything less than adoration.

      It’s enlightening to know that you, like the others, think of HELLO DOLLY as a flawed film with its share of pluses and minuses. Perhaps the deck is stacked rather more disproportionately on the “minus” side.

      Funny, too how so many of us steered clear of DOLLY when it first came out. I know, as kids, it must have seemed a property targeting the Lawrence Welk set. I know that outside of that stupendous Richard Amsel artwork (I have an Amsel Bette Midler poster – along with one he did for The Harlettes- hanging in my living room), almost nothing about the marketing blitzkrieg at the time made anything about HELLO DOLLY appealing to younger audiences. Maybe that’s one of the reasons they decided to cast their Dolly so young.

      What’s also curious is that you can never guess who is going to like it or for what reasons. Your mom. For example. Given what you say about her dislike of the popular musical stars of the day you must have been quite surmised by her having no problem with a film you managed to avoid for decades By the way, I think I would have got a kick out of hearing some of your moms her uncharitable comments about those entertainers. If they’re anything like your Cracker Barrel gift shop remark or Bette Midler observation, she’d have me collapsed into tears of laughter.

      When you describe finally watching HELLO DOLLY as “Somehow I made it through and actually kind of enjoyed it” you sound like I did a few years back. Even down to the “I could watch it again maybe”…as that is how I eventually came to parse out my moments of joy to such a degree that I eventually cloaked the entire character of the film in its isolated moments of pleasure.
      I think you’re not far off in looking to Gene Kelly and studio pressures playing a role in the film’s problems. A big movie like this might have benefitted from the kind of co-directing thing Kelly had with Stanley Donen. Asking one director to focus on so many logistical matters (with the pressures of making sure the already-swelled budget doesn’t cost a penny more) leaves them little time to work on performances…something Kelly himself copped to in later years.
      And indeed, what would Bob Fosse, with his innate showmanship and aversion to sentimentality do with a property like HELLO DOLLY?

      Though our tastes frequently intersect, I had to chuckle that you seem to fancy the two songs in the film I always look upon as refrigerator breaks…” Ribbons Down My Back” (not so much for the song as for the poorly-matched dubbed voice) and the written for the film “Love is Only Love.” I guess when it comes to HELLO DOLLY, there’s never a shortage of things to like and dislike.
      I hopped around quite a bit in my reply, but only because your comment was so enjoyable i wanted to hit as many points as I could.
      Ever a pleasure to hear from you. Commenting is never a requirement, as I always flatter myself and imagine that you read my posts anyway after all these years.
      But it is nice to have the occasional chance to say "Hi" and know what you're thinking. Cheers, Argyle. Take care!

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    2. Argyle again. Thank you, Ken for your great response on so many points! I love that those two songs are "refrigerator breaks" for you, and I get it!! I guess I came to "Ribbons..." sort of backwards, first via a mention by Sandra Bernhard, then to Barbra's recorded version, so I was ready for it in the movie - and sort of surprised that it was sung by Minnie (?) I also just love the imagery, the way it comes at hope for romance in a sideways, subtle way. It's sort of hokey, but evocative, to me.
      Long ago, when I was in the thrall of young Katharine Hepburn, I asked my mom if she liked her (she would have seen KH in the movies, at her prime) and my mom was quite dismissive. I think my mom disdained "showiness". She wanted her movie stars to be buried in the role which I would say Julie Andrews is in "Mary Poppins" and Streisand is in "Hello, Dolly". Their amazing-how-talented-I-am-isn't-it? quality is subordinated to the role. I think she was sensitive to that. Maybe my generation (post-modern?) was more intrigued by the "honesty" of the performer's persona existing in tandem with the role, that interplay, that ambiguity, that commentary. And it IS "showy" and also effective in something like "Cabaret" or SMc in "Postcards...". I'm a little more suspect of seeming sincerity (see: Streep, Meryl. Ducking! I do like her in some early things.)
      I grin at your fansenior idea! Yes - the generation that would have passionate opinions about HD is fast disappearing. Maybe in some senior center one day we will be getting into huffs about "Star" or "Song of Norway". I can only hope I'll be there.
      Thank you, Ken!

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    3. And YES! "Hello, Dolly" was SO Lawrence Welk, community theater, beauty pageant talent section.

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  4. So wonderful to find you posting again! (And two?!) When I was 11, my mother did a ramshackle community theatre production of HD! and that was my first exposure to it in any way. I was at rehearsal every night observing. Somehow during that, she obtained the original Broadway album (which I must say was in virtually everyone's home, it seemed!) Later on, I stumbled upon the movie version (playing as you say in a cropped, mangled version for broadcast) and I could not believe my eyes.....! The staggering (over)production boggled my young mind, even when I wasn't even seeing the whole panorama of it. Having only seen the cardboard and plywood rendition, the sheer magnitude of it all was just unreal. I always loved "Put On Your Sunday Clothes" in most any production, but the movie one... wow. And then toss in Babs' jazzy vocal choices. Only Nostradamus could have predicted that the gangly, thoroughly annoying Michael Crawford would one day take Broadway by storm as a sensuously dangerous and vocally impressive "Phantom of the Opera!" Wild. I have a friend who worships every frame of this movie (and I never did), so when I saw a DVD available about a year ago for $3.00 (!) I went ahead and snatched it up to see what the movie was like in its true ratio and a clean picture on my 70" TV. Wowza... It's an impressive visual achievement. Today it would be CGI-ed to hell and back, but back when one had to have every element in place and hope that nothing wrecked a take. It's really something to be appreciated on that level alone. I totally get what you mean about combative discourse between online contributors/commenters. Some of it can be attributed to just how much passion we/they feel over movies, TV shows and stars that we love. But there's always a way to say something that isn't "scorched earth!" I strive for that and I know you do, too. We tend to qualify our thoughts and generally leave room for another viewpoint. (The world could use more of it!) This was a treat to read and it was so surprising to discover that it was a movie you had not yet covered. Thanks!

    P.S. - How amazing that you got to know Walter Matthau firsthand!

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    1. Argyle here: I love your comments!!

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    2. Argyle...! Thank you so much. :-)

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    3. Hello Jon –
      Yes, it's been a while. Similarly, it's been a while since I visited your blog, and I was thrilled to see you’ve been so prolific and wrote a fabulous piece about that Paltrow/Lange curio HUSH. I thought I was the only one who saw that (in a theater, yet!)

      Anyway, onto DOLLY—You’re right; Hello Dolly appeared in nearly every record collection, with the song featured in all the popular piano selections books, plus, it seemed like every pop singer and Easy Listening artist of the day had a shot at it.

      I love that you were introduced to it through your mom and community theater. It seems getting to know it on a small scale is a good way to better appreciate the gargantuan scale they go for in the movie (Irene Molly’s little hat shop is as big as MACY’s).
      The most hilarious of your observations: “Only Nostradamus could have predicted that the gangly, thoroughly annoying Michael Crawford would one day take Broadway by storm as a sensuously dangerous and vocally impressive "Phantom of the Opera!" Ha! That’s me, all over.
      Crawford’s very charming as the White Rabbit in ALICES ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND (1972), but who could guess PHANTOM was in his future. That’s like Tommy Steele in Macbeth.

      I’m glad you finally got to see the film in true widescreen; probably looks even better than when it was released. I think it’s an easy movie to find annoying, a difficult movie to completely dislike, and one that, love it or hate it, you have to give credit for all its pre-CGI spectacle. The logistics of getting a film of this scale off the ground must have been staggering.
      Terrific hearing from you, Jon, and appreciate that you always seem to return even with month-long gaps between entries. So appreciate that.
      Reiterating Argyle, your comments are always so enjoyable and I love that readers are aware of and appreciative of the contributions of other readers.
      Take care!
      And yes...I feel so lucky to have known Matthau however briefly. He was a delight.

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  5. Where do I friggin' start with this one? A 1950s MGM movie musical made by Fox in 1969. Yeah, look at those credits: Roger Edens, Gene Kelly, Michael Kidd - - - all MGM musical vets. "Put on Your Sunday Clothes" is a definite throwback to "On the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe" from "The Harvey Girls". So much for originality.

    It's long, it's overblown but I'll be damned that Streisand Woman doesn't sing the sh*t outta that Jerry Herman score. And she's funny and flirty and sexy (yes, even underneath that 90 pound hat, 60 pound wig, and 150 pound Irene Sharaff designed dresses).

    Walter Matthau is Walter Matthau and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

    The only drawbacks: that supporting cast. Ugh! Marianne McAndrew?!?!?! Who was/is she? And she couldn't lip sync her one big number to save her life! Atrocious! EJ Peaker, Michael Crawford and Joyce Ames are so beyond annoying in this with their over-the-top mugging! I find it jarring on my 70+ inch 4K UHD monitor and I don't want to even imagine how it looked on a 70mm movie screen! Danny Lockin on the other side is adorable. And it's fun to see Broadway Legend Tommy Tune in an early movie role.

    Best number: Louis Armstrong and Babs going at it with the title song.

    2nd Best: "Before the Parade Passes By"

    3rd Best: "Just Leave Everything to Me"

    ....and after that I could take or leave the rest.




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    1. Hello Carlos –
      I think you hit the nail on the head in your first paragraph. The 1950s was the heyday for many members of the creative team, as they delivered what they were accustomed to and familiar with. That opening tracking shot, capturing the morning activities of 1960s New Yorkers at ankle height, felt like just a variation of Kidd’s GUYS AND DOLLS - 1955 opening.

      Considering the level of abuse directed at her and all the media outrage surrounding her casting, it’s ironic that–at least based on the consensus of the comments posted here—it’s Streisand who makes the film even somewhat bearable. She and Matthau somehow manage to keep their heads above whatever is happening with that supporting cast.

      Speaking of which, the only other thing I ever saw Marianne McAndrew in was an episode of LOVE AMERICAN STYLE, and I was surprised at how good her comic delivery and timing were. She was really charming.
      I have no idea what they were aiming for in casting her in HELLO DOLLY. Ever since Julie Andrews made a splash as a nanny, there seemed to be this trend of casting women in musicals who resemble everyone’s favorite fourth-grade teacher. And don’t get me started on that dubbed singing voice. A movie costs a small fortune, yet no one bothers to find a good vocal match for McAndrews’ low-register speaking voice.

      Oh, and I’m glad you numbered “Just Leave Everything to Me” among your favorite numbers.
      I much prefer that song to the one it replaced, “I Put My Hand In," which always plays back in my head with the melody of “I Wanna Hold Your Hand" whenever I try to recall it.
      Thanks for reading this and contributing your thoughts on HELLO DOLLY. It really does seem to be one of those movies whose parts are greater than the whole.

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